In October me and my fiance were hit by an 18 wheeler truck. He died from his injuries. We've been together since high school. Not to be too corny but he's he love of my life. I met a girl through a family member who is able to talk to spirits. I talked to my fiance 29 days after the accident. She didn't charge me any money. It was from this that I realized that people exist in a non-physical realm. My sole reason for wanting to experience the non-physical is to be with him. After doing lots of research I've ended up here, looking for help.
1. Give us a general understanding of what kind of knowledge you have regarding astral projection.
I've read Xanth's Phasing Primer pdf and the Frank Kepple organized Google Docs document. It wasn't until I found these that things really started to click. That was about a week ago. I understand that projection experience is just based on different levels of awareness.
2. What kind of expectations do you have towards projection... what do you think projection is?
I realize that it will take tons of practice as this I've never tried to understand this level consciousness. I see that projecting is not something mystical and is possible for everyone with effort and understanding. I've had some experiences that I remember that is really helping me understand.
-When I was about 14 one of my dreams ended like a movie. It faded to black. Then I just saw darkness. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't move my body. It was terrifying. It wasn't until someone kicked me about 20 minutes later that I woke up.
-Around the same age I realized I was in a dream in the middle of it. I just kept yelling this isn't real this is a dream. I just kept laughing and participating in whatever was happening.
-About a few weeks ago I was asleep and I heard my sister come in my room looking for something. I didn't wake up but I heard her. Sometime later I woke up. I could see the room but my body wasn't moving. I just started screaming but I wasn't making any sounds. I saw the hallway light on and I thought my sister would come and shake me but she didn't. I realized my body was in the "sleep paralysis" frozen state and I calmed down. My body then started to vibrate really violently. When that happened I tried to roll out of my body but I wasn't successful. I wasn't that far into my research I had a lot of misunderstandings and I didn't know what to do next. I tried to think of some exiting techniques like the rope thing but I hadn't read into it deep enough. It took a whole lot of energy so I lowered my vibrations and went back to sleep.
3. What kind of methods/techniques have you tried?
I originally tried the classic obe techniques based on reading different articles and forums. I tried laying down and trying to enter sleep paralysis. I would lay on my back and fight every urge I had to roll over, scratch, swallow or move. I've tried laying there and imagining different exit techniques and waiting for vibrations. I've tried using the timer from lucidology.com to beep at intervals to wake me up. They all just left me frustrated.
It wasn't until I found astralvoyage.com that really put things into perspective. I read those articles and found the Gateway Experience. Doing some more research I discovered Kepple's phasing technique which makes so much sense to me. I stopped focusing on trying to relax so much and more on getting deeper into my consciousness. I'm currently using the noticing technique and the mental rundown. I'm really just starting it. The second time I did it I saw some images coming at me but of coarse I got distracted. I wake up at 3-4 am everyday. My goal is to stay up for about an hour and go back to sleep but I've been turning my alarm off and sleep through. I just need more practice.
4. How long have you been attempting them for?
I've been attempting since 12/17. That's when I started to keep a dream journal. I usually remember my dreams, sometimes vaguely, sometimes clearly. Today I finally got a list of things that I can do to practice during the day, before I go to sleep, and when I wake up.
I'm putting all my effort into this and just hoping for some feedback based on my experiences. When I saw this Destynee's Plan thing I thought this was an excellent idea and something I need to take advantage. All commenters please be honest as possible. I finally have all my plans and ideas organized and focused so I will be updating how my efforts have been unfolding. Looking forward to the feedback.
Now, let me just clarify something quickly for you.
It's not your understanding yet, it's just something you read.
Eventually you will have your own experiences and you can test this stuff out for yourself.
For now, just kind of put aside everything you've read about projection and just focus entirely upon trying to learn to experience it for yourself.
*ALL* techniques boil down to one thing. Yes... ONE common factor exists between *EVERY* *SINGLE* *TECHNIQUE* out there.
What they all boil down to is that they all get you to focus upon something outside of yourself. They all get you to move your focus away from the physical in some way. That's it.
That's the key to projecting.
I'm very desperate for success
Yohan wrote:Thanks Xanth and Szaxx.
That tip is such an easy one to forget. Sometimes I forget to realize to just let it happen. It has really helped.
I'm finding that I can't focus on my rundown with the Hemi-Sync beats. I always itch or have to move or something. And Monroe's voice is distracting. I tried listening to the FreeFlow track from Wave I bc it doesnt have his voice as much but that didn't really work out any better. I've decided to focus on Lucid Dreaming. I have been recording my dreams since the middle of December everyday. For the most part I always remember them so I feel like that will be easier than Phasing at least for now.
I've switched to Isochronic Beats. I bought the Astral package from UnexplainableStore.com. It includes an AP beat, LD beat, and a past life regression beat. I've also tried to the AP and LD beats from Iso-tones.com. I'm on Day 3. Since I've been listening to the LD track I have been dreaming about Lucid Dreaming and AP. For example the first night I listened to it I had a dream my mom was taking me to the doctor because I was having a hard time lucid dreaming. Yep I tried to go to the lucid dream doctor lol. The second day I had a dream I was asking someone how to get to the Astral. They said I just needed a ride there (lol smh). I get so frustrated when I wake up. I'm talking about LDing but if I could just realize that I'm dreaming... I like the Isochronic beats tho. For some reason I don't get the itchy movy feeling.
I have been doing reality checks more often. I downloaded a random alarm that rings throughout the day at random times. I have it set for 100 times per day. When I hear it I look at my hands and tell myself I am dreaming. I haven't been lucid yet.
I'm not sure how else to induce a LD. I go over my dream journal, I do reality checks, I have been doing the Wake Back to Bed method everyday. I'm not sure what else I can do other than practice.
Also, realize what you're saying when you say you're going to focus on "lucid dreaming" instead...
You're saying that you want to work on learning to recognize when you're dreaming to become aware. Realize too that this IS a projection as well. It's every bit an astral projection.
I just wanted to make sure you know what you're attempting in relation to what most perceive an "astral projection" to be.
But also realize that no single tone can be for any particular action. For example, there's no such thing as an Isochronic Tone specifically to lucid dream... it's entirely about Intent.
Yohan wrote:Did I have an OBE or a False Awakening?
So this is my question. I listen to the beats before I go to sleep. I fall asleep with them playing.
I had an experience where I was laying down and my body just started to vibrate. It was so intense that it almost hurt. I heard a whole bunch of noises. I got scared and it stopped. So then I thought about how I want to do this to be with my boyfriend. So the vibrations started again and I made sure to tell myself to remain calm. I know excitement is the downfall. I thought about all the fun memories that we had to make the vibrations stronger.
I've read about all the exiting techniques but I just thought Whats the point? I just raised my hand. It was dark. Then I raise my other hand. Then I got up. I looked at my bed to see if I saw my body. I didn't see it so I laid back down. I thought that it was just me in my body getting up.
This would be a false awakening right? For traditional OBEs is it always guaranteed that you will see your body lying on the bed?
I had another experience where the buzzing in my head had gotten so loud that I yelled out. I looked at the door because I thought my mom was going to come in the room and see what was going on but she didn't. Is this a False Awakening?
It seems that you are doing everything correctly. If you are constantly hitting a wall in your travels, I'd recommend you slow down.
A one week break from any 'trying to do anything.
The best thing now is to simply go to sleep each night, expect nothing, do nothing and try to get to sleep the old way.
After a day or two something may activate the dream trigger mechanism. This can't be rushed and doing nothing works better than trying.
If you can manage another 45 mins sleep, this will help too.
You'll find the results in the morning if it works.
Should you get total awareness in your dream, you've made it. Remember the feel, this can used later. Stop the dream with a thought and do whatever you've ideally planned already. (A local safe place to go to.)
Yohan wrote: What should I have done differently? How do you guys transition from Lucid to Astral awareness? Is there a better method to increase my awareness? Would it have been easier to transition thru a TV or walk thru a door or something like that? I'm going to go search around the blogosphere. I didn't expect that to happen.
I understand this takes practice but getting this close is killing me
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