What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

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What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Xanth » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:52 am

As the subject says...

What are the biggest misconceptions you think exist around Projection?

It'd be nice to start a list for new people to have a good starting point.
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What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Szaxx » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:34 pm

The biggest by far is, everyone does this naturally and most refuse to accept the facts.

Great expectations of learning the art and becoming proficient in a day.

The methods suggesting you have a need of something in order to have success. This can be crystals or binaural beats even that energy work has to be done.

There's more Im sure.
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Zagadka » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:59 pm

When I speak about projection to people, most just think you go out of body in the RTZ. And it's really hard to change this conception because once you start telling them you go in near, similar or totaly different dimensions (focouses) of reality, they tend to dismiss it as dreams... projection is such a complex topic!
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Bedeekin » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:11 pm

Ooooh... I love this game!!!! :lol:

Seriously.. you have some good questions going on here mr X.

ok....

* That it is difficult.

* That it is easy.

* That you can understand and learn it by simply reading everything there is to know about it.

* That there is a silver cord.

* That you can get possessed.

* That you can't get back.

* That the most important thing is to have a RTZ projection

* That OOBEs aren't related to dreams or that dreams are 'just' dreams.
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby mini stapler » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:28 pm

* That it is difficult.

* That it is easy.


Nailed it. :lol:

That astral projection is dangerous.

Though I have been told that being suddenly 'brought back' by someone waking you up or something can give you a sharp snapping sensation that can be experienced as painful, that may be more like something that can happen coming from ANY 'unconscious' state to waking state abruptly. (like a shock to the system type thing.)
Absolute looney tune.
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby CFTraveler » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:45 pm

To me the biggest misconception is that their experience 'has' to be like someone else's, and if it isn't then it's not 'valid'. I see that everywhere. And (and this is going to bother some) that it somehow explains or 'proves' a person's worldview.
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Majic » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:48 pm

That it is a linear process and you have to do it step by step

That I have been trying for at least a week and it does not work

Where it happens

The one off experience and just knowing it all (beliefs)

That it is hard

That it is easy
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Bedeekin » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:00 pm

Majic wrote:That it is a linear process and you have to do it step by step

That I have been trying for at least a week and it does not work

The one off experience and just knowing it all (beliefs)

That it is hard

That it is easy


The top two are spot on.

Did you come up with the last ones without reading my list... lol
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Majic » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:24 pm

yip all on my own, I cringe at times at what I read and posts on people laying still for an hour or longer so and asking if this is SP as they cant move and therefore it must be SP and then HI should be there soon.
They are stiff from not moving and have bed sores most likely and think this is SP but then 10 others tell them it is correct and thats how it worked for them and now they have SP most nights and HI soon after so the first LD is not far away - to be hand delivered by father christmas most likley
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Bedeekin » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:07 pm

"I felt a vibration feeling in my finger... was I nearly there?"

"yes... it's your thumb chakra"
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Szaxx » Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:11 am

ROFL.
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Zagadka » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:01 am

Bedeekin wrote:"I felt a vibration feeling in my finger... was I nearly there?"

"yes... it's your thumb chakra"


Your thumb chakra hahaha good one :mrgreen:
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Xanth » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:11 am

You actually DO have a thumb chakra.
It's a one of the minor ones in your body. :)
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby ChopstickFox » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:39 am

That some ways of interacting with the non physical are more "real" or more "authentic" than others. Such as dreams vs OBEs. All the same place peoples!!!
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Tobi » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:17 pm

That it's something unnatural, (when what we're doing is simply "waking up" to a state we all enter, every night of our lives, instead of being unconscious)

Dangerous, (well if it was THAT dangerous we wouldn't know about it because anyone who tried it would be toast, thus probably wouldn't report back )

That it's an "Occult" practice and not good for Christians to do (the one single most beautiful out of body experience which was a Grace, and showed me there is no death, happened the morning after I had prayed in a little church for the guidance of Divine Will.)

er....probably lots of others too which I can't think of at the mo.
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Xanth » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:49 pm

Just thought I'd get all these ideas into a single post. I'll probably repost this at some point and type it up a little more concisely. :)
But here's the list so far! Great job too everyone!

-Projection isn't a natural thing
-You can become proficient in a day or a week
-You need more than just yourself to succeed
-It is difficult
-It is easy (yeah, these two are funny lol)
-You can understand and learn it simply by reading everything you can get your hands on
-There is a silver cord
-You can get possessed
-You can't get back to your body
-The most important thing is to have a projection in this physical world
-Projections aren't related to dreams or that dreams are "just" dreams
-Projecting is dangerous
-In order for your experience to be "valid" it HAS TO be like someone else's
-It's a linear process, which you have to do step-by-step
-Having a one off experience, and basing all your beliefs on that
-Trying for a week and it does not work, and because of that projection obviously isn't real
-Some ways of interacting with the non physical are more "real" or more "authentic" than others. Dreams vs OBEs.
-It's an "occult" practice only

I really like that last one... because most people really have no idea what the word "occult" means. It simply means "mystery"... nothing more.
Anything more people add to that word is due to stereotypes and confusion from religious institutions.
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Majic » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:08 am

There is a silver cord



LOL-this is awesome, I had some long deep lucids, the ones that are sup induced and last hours, most likely astral if you want to bigger words but anyway at the time I had about 3 experiences of the silver cord and it was real in an interesting way. i could see and feel this cord and was holding it in my hand. it felt quite solidcold and was carving its way through the dreamscape, sliceing buildings and seemed quite real. I really wanted to snap it and was holding it in my hand, feeling it and thinking of all I have heard about how it connects to the body in bed and thought, snap it and see what happens. ha did not do it
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Xanth » Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:38 am

Majic wrote:
There is a silver cord



LOL-this is awesome, I had some long deep lucids, the ones that are sup induced and last hours, most likely astral if you want to bigger words but anyway at the time I had about 3 experiences of the silver cord and it was real in an interesting way. i could see and feel this cord and was holding it in my hand. it felt quite solidcold and was carving its way through the dreamscape, sliceing buildings and seemed quite real. I really wanted to snap it and was holding it in my hand, feeling it and thinking of all I have heard about how it connects to the body in bed and thought, snap it and see what happens. ha did not do it

Was this your first experience with the mythical silver cord?

I'd have absolutely no issues cutting that sucker to 'test' it. LoL
But alas, I've never had a chance. hehe
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby ChopstickFox » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:31 am

Nice, Xanth. I wonder if anyone has tried that, haha! xD

I've never seen it either. Makes me curious!
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Re: What Are The Biggest Projection Misconceptions?

Postby Majic » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:12 pm

I had 3 experiences with the cord and was intrigued by it. i was floating above a dream city just looking around in front of me and spun around to see if it was there as I have been thinking or reading about the cord and wanted to see if it was there. There was a cord twisting away into the distance and I looked at it for a while and picked it up in my hands and played with it for a while. It was silver and cool to the touch and had a sheen to it like liquid mercury. I liked the feel of it and had the though of breaking it but was a little concerned and also didnt want to destroy it. I also wondered that if I thougth it should not be snapped it might lead to a WR headache due to some abstract belief.

What was interesting was that in flying low over a city and looking back the cord was weaving behind me and cutting through buildings in the same way I can unless I want them solid for some reason and this just renforced that the dreamspace was a clever construct.

I have not seen or looked for the cord in a long time and may have passed the point of seeing this even If I seek it but then have no doubt that if I wanted I could call it back up. I find it interesting that I was not wanting to break it but for concerns about what it might do and yet in a lot of dreams or what I call beyond the dream I have no need of a body at all and go without one plenty of times so again its all part of moving on in the dreamspace.

These sorts of dreams I call deep dreaming and are supp induced, ultra stable for me and can last hours. They are off the scale compared to normal lucids and what I call the playground or normal dreamspace.
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