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Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:05 pm
by Xanth
The simple answer to this question is no, Astral Projection is not a spiritual practice in itself. I have no doubt that some people will be surprised to hear that and others will be nodding in agreement. Please allow me to explain.

This is, in fact, the wrong question. The question should be, “CAN Astral Projection be a spiritual practice?”. The answer to that is a resounding YES. Of course it can be, but you need to make the conscious choice to make it so.

It starts with asking yourself why do you want to learn Astral Projection, or if the case is that you already know how, then simply ask why do you Project? It begins with the Intent behind the “why”. If all you’re looking for is the thrill of something new, or perhaps you want to just fly around, or maybe you’re wanting to spy on people… well, the Intent associated with these actions isn’t of Love. Some of it is self-serving. Some of it is just outright negative. I’m not saying don’t spy, don’t fly and don’t find a thrill… I’m just saying that if you’re looking to grow spiritually, then those things should probably be kept in balance with your other activities. I’m a big fan of flying… and a lot of the time I get caught up in doing just that. So I understand that sometimes it’s not easy to keep your mind on track.

Now remember that you can grow spiritually much faster simply by interacting with others in this physical reality. Don’t hide from other people, they’re your path to spiritual growth! That is the entire reason why you chose to be here in the first place! To fast track yourself towards becoming a being of Love. If you can stick to that path in the current social atmosphere of greed that surrounds us on a daily basis, then I think you’re doing pretty good. The nice thing about becoming Love here physically is that it translates over into your Projections. You will find that your Projections take on a much more positive atmosphere to them and you will meet with more positive entities, because you’ve now shifted your Intent towards a more positive position, hence you will begin to experience such directly. This concept also applies to our physical lives. The more you change within to become closer to Love, the more positive effects you’ll see happen in your life.

You can definitely also learn to become a more Loving being through Astral Projection. This is where Astral Projection as a spiritual tool comes into play. Just as you grow spiritually here in the physical, through your interactions with other Consciousnesses, the same holds true while you’re projecting as well. Be kind to all those you meet, because you never know if an entity you’re interacting with is a creation of your consciousness or a truly separate being from you. So just be nice to everyone.

That lesson also holds true here in this physical reality, except you know that everyone is separate (well, that’s the illusion anyway) from you. You don’t know the life stories of other people you meet here physically, so treat everyone with respect. This is the first lesson, in my opinion, of becoming Love. Respecting everyone. It has just as many implications physically as it does during our Projections.

So, as you can see, Astral Projection is only a Spiritual Practice if you choose to make it such. Likewise, even your physical life requires a choice to be made as to whether it’s a spiritual life or not.

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2013/ ... ractice-2/

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:11 pm
by astralzombie
Xanth didn't just ask a good question, he posed it in a very interesting way. It's the same way I had to review the term in the beginning to get over the dogma that I had placed on it with my old mindset.

Like El Jefe said, the short and quick answer is no to the original question. This ability, however, has completely changed my life that, I find it hard not to see it as a spiritual practice for all even though I myself had to find a way not to see it like that.

*Enter the cynic box*
This is the real danger that I believe Christianity sees in projecting. It's not demonic possession or influence like is often preached. They fear that they will lose their flock if their followers practice this. Why? Because it's almost impossible not to change spiritually after one has lost their fears of it and explores with an open mind. This often means that old beliefs get left in the dust and are replaced with new ones that are instilled through trust and understanding that just knowing brings with it. This is much more concrete than being told something over and over again.
*Exit the cynic box*

This also reminds me of Beedeekin's "meat" based projector stereotype. It takes a lot of hard work and determination to project or phase regularly and maintain that this is all some nifty gift of evolution and nothing more. I imagine they have a hard time teaching this philosophy to the people they teach how to project.

Lion- I find myself doing all kinds of mean things in my regular dreams but when I have an OOBE, I am never violent in the least. I joke about wanting to slay dragons and zombies galore but this is never the case in the NPR.

I was once that evil entity!


That's what I had to realize the other night after listening to the series that Jettins recommended and then phasing on the subject matter. :cry: :oops: :cry:

That's not easy to personally acknowledge.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:13 pm
by Xanth
What if we asked then...

Can Astral Projection be a Religious Practice?

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:54 pm
by Szaxx
Good question, it gets an answer on that asked.
Q, Can astral projection be a religious practice?
A, You can practice astral projection religiously.
Ask a religious fanatic to prove his god.
Ask a projectioner to prove his art.
See a commonality here? The point is you yourself can prove it in both cases. Its subjective in both cases too.
I've heard of holy wars, can't say the same for the art.
In religion a belief system is generated.
In the art it's quite the opposite.
The commonality disperses with greater detail.
It's still a religious practice for me though.
That said, it must therefore be my religion.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:18 pm
by CFTraveler
I've heard of holy wars, can't say the same for the art.
I beg to differ on that....

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:57 pm
by astralzombie
I wonder how much we know about history is true. Even historic accounts that aren't contested by any credible historians are probably half right at best. :?: :?:

Sorry Xanth, I'm getting back on track now. :D

I believe that projecting could easily be the cornerstone ritual of a religion but wouldn't be the only aspect. Perhaps the uninitiated would have to pass some test in the astral to prove that they can project. Something like seeing what's in the room next door...along those lines.

Failure would of course mean death. :twisted: JK.

Truthfully, I don't see using projecting as a bad idea for a religious practice but it would be hard to establish a uniformed doctrine given all the subjectivity involved.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:36 pm
by Xanth
astralzombie wrote:I wonder how much we know about history is true. Even historic accounts that aren't contested by any credible historians are probably half right at best. :?: :?:

Sorry Xanth, I'm getting back on track now. :D

Nah, feel free to go where ever the wind takes it. :)

I believe that projecting could easily be the cornerstone ritual of a religion but wouldn't be the only aspect. Perhaps the uninitiated would have to pass some test in the astral to prove that they can project. Something like seeing what's in the room next door...along those lines.

Failure would of course mean death. :twisted: JK.

Truthfully, I don't see using projecting as a bad idea for a religious practice but it would be hard to establish a uniformed doctrine given all the subjectivity involved.

I've venture to guess it would be about as close to impossible as one could get.
UNLESS, you indoctrinated people into what they SHOULD experience, then... anyone who doesn't experience exactly that is deemed a heretic and killed. LoL

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:37 pm
by CFTraveler
Really? I see all sorts of dogma everywhere, regarding 'what system is more accurate' and who is right and who is wrong. Even here I've seen a lot of "this is real and that isn't, let's make fun of it." This is war of dogma, even if no one loses their life. It may be less physical, but just as hostile. Maybe I should stop, I seem to be in a mood.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:39 pm
by Xanth
CFTraveler wrote:Really? I see all sorts of dogma everywhere, regarding 'what system is more accurate' and who is right and who is wrong. Even here I've seen a lot of "this is real and that isn't, let's make fun of it." This is war of dogma, even if no one loses their life. It may be less physical, but just as hostile. Maybe I should stop, I seem to be in a mood.

That's a great point as well. Dogma *DOES* exist in Spirituality... as well as in Astral Projection.

As with Spirituality, I think the statement of "I wouldn't want in any spirituality group that would have me as a member" would apply. LOL

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:40 pm
by astralzombie
CFTraveler wrote:Really? I see all sorts of dogma everywhere, regarding 'what system is more accurate' and who is right and who is wrong. Even here I've seen a lot of "this is real and that isn't, let's make fun of it." This is war of dogma, even if no one loses their life. It may be less physical, but just as hostile. Maybe I should stop, I seem to be in a mood.


You're right about the dogma but dogma exists anywhere countering beliefs are shared.

Most of us here are already experienced projectors so there's bound to be some established beliefs that differ. And from what I can tell, most of these differences are small and sometimes don't exist at all. We all use different terms and metaphors to describe the same experiences and misunderstandings can often arise from that.

But I see no friggin signs of hostilities or putdowns. That's just silly. :lol:

Seriously though, we're all guilty of injecting emotions when we read posts that the authors never intended. Then there's a little dance of egos and all is well. :D

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:47 pm
by CFTraveler
astralzombie wrote:
CFTraveler wrote:Really? I see all sorts of dogma everywhere, regarding 'what system is more accurate' and who is right and who is wrong. Even here I've seen a lot of "this is real and that isn't, let's make fun of it." This is war of dogma, even if no one loses their life. It may be less physical, but just as hostile. Maybe I should stop, I seem to be in a mood.


You're right about the dogma but dogma exists anywhere countering beliefs are shared.

Most of us here are already experienced projectors so there's bound to be some established beliefs that differ. And from what I can tell, most of these differences are small and sometimes don't exist at all. We all use different terms and metaphors to describe the same experiences and misunderstandings can often arise from that.

But I see no friggin signs of hostilities or putdowns. That's just silly. :lol:

Seriously though, we're all guilty of injecting emotions when we read posts that the authors never intended. Then there's a little dance of egos and all is well. :D
I agree and have said so many times before. Sorry about the projection (psychological), I was having a day yesterday and took it out on this thread.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:22 pm
by astralzombie
That's what we're here for. :) If we take it out on those we live with, life would be hell (more than needed anyways). :D

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:49 pm
by Xanth
CFTraveler wrote:I agree and have said so many times before. Sorry about the projection (psychological), I was having a day yesterday and took it out on this thread.

Is it bad then that I saw absolutely nothing wrong with what you wrote before? >.> :)

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:30 am
by Szaxx
You handled your bad day like a true lady. And finished with a disclaimer. That's commendable.
You have a point, on some scientific sites a religious war would ensue. Im glad we're above that.
Enlightenment lol

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:56 am
by Xanth
FIRE ZE MISSILES!!! :)

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:41 am
by Szaxx
There's always an exemption from the rules...
:evil:

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:20 am
by CFTraveler
Szaxx wrote:You handled your bad day like a true gentleman. And finished with a disclaimer. That's commendable.
You have a point, on some scientific sites a religious war would ensue. Im glad we're above that.
Enlightenment lol
Thanks. and ps. I'm a woman. Tee hee.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:04 pm
by astralzombie
CFTraveler wrote:
Szaxx wrote:You handled your bad day like a true gentleman. And finished with a disclaimer. That's commendable.
You have a point, on some scientific sites a religious war would ensue. Im glad we're above that.
Enlightenment lol
Thanks. and ps. I'm a woman. Tee hee.


This is off topic but I have to finally say this. You have the smartest kitty cat out of everyone here. :D


Wait a sec...that's not a dunce,s hat is it? JK.

Is that your cat or do you just love the pic? I know I do.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:17 am
by Szaxx
Sorry Cft, now corrected. Mixed Identity.

Re: Is Astral Projection a Spiritual Practice?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:49 pm
by CFTraveler
astralzombie wrote:
This is off topic but I have to finally say this. You have the smartest kitty cat out of everyone here. :D
Is that your cat or do you just love the pic? I know I do.
I call him Professor Moldybutt. He's not mine, I found him somewhere on the web. I do have two cats, but they wouldn't let me dress them up.